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Pipers Hole Cottage

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Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby sheila illidge » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:11 pm

Hi Everybody,
Can anyone give me any information on Pipers Hole Cottage which I think was on Parkside Road, Winnick? During my search for my family I have discovered that my 3x great grandmother lived at the cottage between 1841 to 1851, the family name was Peake. The cottage name seems unusual and has aroused my curiosity. If there are any old photo's of the cottage I would love to see them. Thanks in anticipation and many thanks for help in the past.
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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby neileen » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:38 pm

It's still there and it is mentioned on here somewhere Sheila.
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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby Kirsty » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:20 am

neileen wrote:It's still there and it is mentioned on here somewhere Sheila.

Hi All,

Just had a search and found the following post/topic which may be of interest to you Sheila:
http://www.newton-le-willows.com/history/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1294&p=9655&hilit=Pipers+Hole+Cottage#p9655
The thread/topic is titled, "Ghost Walk". Not sure how much help it will prove but thought it was a place to start.

Just found another thread/topic which will probably prove more useful/relavant:
http://www.newton-le-willows.org/history/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1276&hilit=Pipers+Hole
The thread/topic is titled, "The Hermatage Farm".

Best Wishes, Kirsty :)
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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby Kirsty » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:40 am

Hi, only me again,

Just had a look on the 1911 census and found the following;

Pipers Hole, Parkside, Newton le Willows, Lancashire
Head - James Potter - 45 (c. 1866) - Farm Labourer - Culcheth, Lancashire
Wife - Isabella Potter - 45 (c. 1866) - Married for 16 years (6 children born, all still living) - North Meols, Lancashire
Son - Peter Potter - 15 (c. 1896) - Gadner, Domestic - Croft, Lancashire
Son - Joseph Potter - 14 (c. 1897) - Farm Labourer - Croft, Lancashire
Daughter - Mary Potter - 12 (c. 1899) - Croft, Lancashire
Son - John Potter - 10 (c. 1901) - Coft, Lancashire
Daughter - Sarah Potter - 8 (c. 1903) - Croft, Lancashire
Son - Richard Potter - 2 (c. 1909) - Newton le Willwos, Lancashire


TTFN, Kirsty :)
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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby sheila illidge » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:49 pm

Thanks Neileen and Kirsty, I've found the posts and am busy reading them. I may go and find Pipers Hole Cottage and take a modern day photo (with permission of course).
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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby She » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:17 pm

I pass it every day and its up for sale I believe. If I am correct about this, a photo of it should be on some estate agents website.

It is on the sharp corner before St Oswalds Well ...driving in a Lowton direction- on your right.
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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby Podstar66 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:21 pm

There is a James and Annie Peake listed in the 1919 Electoral register, possibly for Pipers Hole. It is a bit unclear.
The names before the PEAKES have house names after the persons name. The page seems to group about 6 or 8 names with the same house name, then a gap of a couple, then house names etc.

xxxx XXXX ~ I made this name up for Cottage in Parkside
xxxx XXXX ~ I made this name up for Cottage in Parkside
Annie PEAKE ~ (no number or name for the house)
James PEAKE ~ (no number or name for the house)

James POTTER ~ Pipers Hole
Isabella POTTER ~ Pipers Hole
Robert HODGKISS ~ Pipers Hole
Fanny HODGKISS ~ Pipers Hole
Fanny WINSTANLEY ~ Pipers Hole
Samuel WINSTANLEY ~ Pipers Hole
Charles Wiliiam HARVEY snr ~ (no number or name for the house)
Mary HARVEY ~ (no number or name for the house)
xxxx XXXX ~ Highfield Farm
xxxx XXXX ~ Highfield Farm


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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby sheila illidge » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:16 am

Thanks, everybody for the help you have given me. I found the cottage and now have some history about it (gleaned from this site) and a modern day photo. I am not too sure how to go about finding and searching Electoral Rolls?
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Re: Pipers Hole Cottage

Postby She » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:46 am

Present day electoral rolls - go to the local library. Certainly the history section at Leigh library does have former electoral rolls as well and they cover the area where Pipers Hole cottage is. So if you are local this is a great free resource.

You can also get them from www.ancestry.com or
www.findmypast.co.uk/electoral-roll.jsp www.findmypast.co.uk/electoral-roll.jsp

What I have done before now is actually write a letter to the present day occupants of a house you are researching. I included my email address and what/why I was interested, and the occupants got back to me with tons of information. They had old pictures, property plans and had already gone to great lengths to research the background to their cottage. Most people are very helpful and so I would certainly do that next - just write them a letter.

Good luck
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